My experience has been on iFriends & Streamate

My understanding is that ALL sites record us so they have a way to see if we are complying with the terms of our contract (bestiality, incest, vomiting, pain, etc.) This does not mean they have the time to monitor all the recordings, but if they get a report/complaint from someone, they can look at the tapes.

What you’re asking about is whether they SELL or use your paid sessions for promotion. Yes, they all do BUT when you sign-up, or any time after you sign-up* (see IMPORTANT note below) you can opt-out of having your recorded videos promoted.

Unfortunately, both sites I’ve worked on did not make it crystal clear that you have this option to opt-out. Our contract is phrased in legalese, so as a newbie you’re not sure what you’re getting yourself into. AND I clearly remember iFriends having a note next to this option that said something like, “If you opt-out of this option you probably won’t get as many customers” Which it turned out was bullshit. What really happens is that THEY would be missing out on free advertising opportunity using your paid video sessions!

While I love camming, I also know that the sites are not there looking out for our best interests. WE have to be very careful in reading the contract & knowing what we’re getting ourselves into!

Back to your initial question, are there sites that won’t use my videos for public promotion or sell the videos. The answer is YES and NO.

YES you can opt-out of having your videos promoted. Both sites I worked on allow you to ‘Geo-block’ an area or an entire country where your stream will NOT be seen. By doing so you’ll keep your stream from being used for advertising. Yay! The reason why is, when the advertising campaign is broadcast around the world the camsite has no way to limit where your individual stream will be seen (or blocked in the Geo-blocking choice you selected =) so instead, they just don’t use your video at all. Geo-blocking protected you from being used in advertising =) =) =)

Selling your videos, that I can’t be so crystal clear about.
Personally, I do not have any experience in seeing my videos, or other models videos, being sold without their consent. There are lots of videos which have been screen captured (recorded) from some trolls computer and HE”s selling them for a profit, but I’m not aware of the camsites doing so without you authorizing it (or failing to opt-out because you weren’t aware you had to =( Again, it’s VERY important that you read & understand what your signing & agreeing to!

* IMPORTANT NOTE
All camsites have a legal disclaimer that they cannot guarantee that your privacy or videos will not appear elsewhere on the internet. The site may take you off the roster of being used for promotions, but they have NO CONTROL over who may be recording your show from their computer, and then post it for money or just shits & grins on other websites!!!!!

Also, that part of the contract refers to if you FAILED to correctly make the right choices when you signed-up, and now you realize you want to have a geo-location blocked so you’re no longer being used in advertising, THE SITE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO TAKE DOWN YOUR PROMO VIDEOS THAT ARE ALREADY BEING USED IN THE ADVERTISING LOOP!!! The promo video of you taking a dildo in your ass will be used all over the internet, on the largest free porn site around, until they create a new ad campaign, which could be years!!!!

PS: while I try to protect my self in every way from being seen publicly, I want my camming to be rather private & very in control of where I’m seen & by whom, I also realize that there is NO WAY to be 100% protected. As I mentioned, there are people who pay for our show, record it, and post it wherever they like. Ultimately we have no real control over our privacy. So , if you’re worried about fucking your life up, or your families life up by camming, then don’t do it. Chances are that when your kids get to a certain age THEIR FRIENDS will find you, thereby making your kids a laughing-stock or worse. Don’t believe me? Search this teacher/MFCs model: Kristin Sundman or read the online article in New York Post (nypost com Title: amy-fisher-is-back-on-long-island-and-ready-for-a-fresh-start), about porn star/cam model Amy Fisher’s kids not having friends because of her porn life =(

I hope this information gives you a better understanding.

I hate things about Cam Sites

1. Free chat – as girls above said. It may seem like a good idea but attracts loads of freeloaders that are not willing to pay. From my experience – I never ended my shift with $0.25 on PPM site, which happened on CB… On PPM sites I had members buying credits during the show with me (even couple of times), which never happened to me on free; it’s a win-win for a model and site 

Also, on free chat based sites it’s more possible to get recorded. If you can watch me on pirate sites for free, why would you pay?

2. Placement based mostly on how much you make. This way many girls get lost in the ocean.

3. Votings that require members to pay to vote. And ofc the only one who profits off of it is the site.

1) The new model period, I have spoken to a few new models about this and often the promoted period is wasted due to the model trying to learn how the site works in this time, a better option might be to allow a model to choose when their room is promoted or even allow them to have the room promoted 1 or 2 days every month through the use of a “promote my room” type button.

2) Personally I don’t have an issue with games in my room, it adds a little something, I often find that users like to take the gamble on winning a great prize or wining something that was a lower cost on the tip menu. But the games need to be well documented on how to set them up and how they are used correctly.

3)Sites that don’t allow camboys (obvious reasons).

4)Sites that alow members to pm for free, or in the case of chaturbate allow members to pay a monthly fee to be able to pm without tipping for it as these members seem to have a scene of entitlement.

5) Cam windows that do not resize, there is no need for my cam window to take up 50% of my screen.

6) sites that do not resize when the window size is changed. If i am working on more than 1 site then I like to stack my windows so I can see every room I am working in at the same time without having to to be constantly changing tabs.

7)Free loaders is a big issue with free chat sites, most of the ones I have seen the issue comes from they way they are marketed. ie/ watch live shows free – gives the guest there is no reason to pay for the site.

8)Sites that dont allow for a fully customized profile, most of us know that the best way to maxamize our income is to create create to brand our self’s, we have accounts over many services and it is important they we are able to match up the design as much as we can, having a basic generic profile takes away from the image that we work to try and build.

9)Sites that promote other sites while I am working (you may have realized that every one of these issues is something that is on chaturbate, that is the site where I am working). After looking at chaturbates advertising prices I am fairly certain that their main priority is not to have models making money but to have models there so they can push the free loading guests to the site, (they have run campaigns like “never pay for live cams again” obviously I cant determine if it was them or an affiliate, but campaigns like this will inflate the guest count which inflates the sites stats which means they can charge more for the ad’s they run on the page. A cam site should be focused on getting members that spend money on the site, not a place to inflate traffic for ad sales (sorry little ranty but this one bugs the crap out of me).

10)Sites that dont offer to help with content take downs. This effects my earnings as well as the sites so I really dont understand why more sites dont offer to help with this.

As for your question about a good affiliate program, ppl + lifetime revshare is always my favorite affiliate system. Where the lead gives a $1-2 comission and the revshare set at 5-10% of the customers spend, or in the case of model sign ups a $5-10 payment for the sign up with a 5-10% rev share on the models earnings. With affiliate marketing just as important as the affiliate program is having affiliate managers that know the business and can offer advice to those getting started with the program as well as help with things such as link tracking, setting conversion tracking etc along with good marketing materials such as banner ad’s and pop unders for both mobile and desktop.

Things that I hate about cam sites

Things that I hate about cam sites:
1.Stop catering to cheap customers
2.Giving below 40 percent. ( 40 percent and above is something that you could work with.)
3.Having crappy customer service reps
4.Allowing customers to get away with bad behavior
5. Lack of proper marketing and not knowing how to develop a proper marketing plan.
6.Lack of proper customer service skills.
7. Having a contest every 5 seconds.
8. Not catering to fetish and vanilla equally. I mean not all of us are into vanilla stuff.
9.Micromanaging
10. Having a bad affiliate program.

i ONLY want to do skype for the generous over $100.

i ONLY want to do skype for the generous over $100. with unlimited time(no per minute). relax n chill. i make the min payout i get my $$ no doing multiple shows to get min payout. i have no patience. lol
the guy have a good time with no rush and just can relax.

i hate doing privates per minute on regular camsites..
but if he a regular and support my chat on camsites
and wants to skype then sure for ALONE TIME
I DON’T PRIVATE ON CAMSITES

otherwise for ME it’s pointless to skype
i rather just hangout on sites

side note: yes in the past i tried and did use Skype for shows. i found i make more $$ on sites. vs skype.
but everybody work it different.

I like working on small camsites

I like working on small camsites, much more than on large sites, but I do not work on sites that pay me below 50% or have a higher than weekly payment period and the minimum for payment can not be more than $ 50.

I like working on a free goal concept for tips, as long as the site has quality traffic to reach my goals, your system has that feature let’s see if you will have a good traffic to use it.

The best site I’ve ever worked on paid a $ 10 an hour prize for the room that could get more viewers at the same time, so the model has an interest in calling people to the site.

BAD EXPERIENCE WITH INDIE BILL!

I had a site, beautiful, yes! but…..i needed updates. there were errors. I used the instant messenger application on their site. OVER 6 WEEKS AND the messages did not even read as “read” Iwas told that the webiste was a “service” they offered. that they were a payment processor.

if i bought a car, and needed “service” and not even acknowledged, that would not fly!

Also…..last payment was 10 days late. I was told that “sorry” they were behind. If my REAL LIFE job was a DAY late, you can bet I would be all over them. But IB only responded after numerous emails.

about the errors on my website…My skype chat didn’t work. email was WRONG. I had clients purchasing shows and I didn’t know it That gives an INDIE girl a BAD name.
Took Gerald 2 mins to fix once I got his skype ID an HOUNDED and HARAUNGED him.

with Indie Bill, they build your site, they maintain it. You cannot update yourself. also check out terms of service….scary………. So I went with www.icammodels.com. I own everything about my site and Alex TAUGHT me how to build/maintain. sure an ongoing process–but better than waiting for an ETERNITY to fix minor things–not to mention other updates (z)

Different types of Phone Sex companies out there:

Different types of Phone Sex companies out there:

1. Dispatch companies – the company handles all the advertising. A dispatcher (or an automated system) collects the caller’s payment information and routes the calls to you. Pay is between 30 cents to 4.99 per min. Many dispatch companies expect you to be able to portray many types of characters. Dispatch companies known as ‘Call Back’ companies, will require you to call the customer back to do the call, and therefore require that you have an unlimited long distance service calling plan on your phone line. Most require either a set schedule or at least 20 hours per week. Some dispatch companies offer you 5.00 dollars for a 15 min block.

2. Direct Dial or Trolling companies -Pay between 1.10 to 5.99 per min. You must look for customers on your own. You must troll in chat rooms, social media, and other places for clients. Require 25 to 70 hours per week to work. You market, blog, and sometimes do credit card processing yourself. ( I learned how to take credit cards and dining cards this way.)

3. Combo (combination) companies – Pay between 99 cent to 3.99 per min. You can troll for your own customers but it is less of issue. Require 25 to 40 hours per week to work.

Tips: Make friends with both dispatcher and owner because they will give you more calls.
Try to see if you could bring your characters with you. ( You will have more control over your own character.)
Try to market yourself twice a week.
Remember to always create a college age character.
Do not let your dispatcher bully you into taking customers you do not like.
Taboo can make you a lot of money and gain you tons of calls.

some tips for getting hired with dispatch phone sex companies

Here are some tips for getting hired with dispatch phone sex companies:

Getting hired at dispatch companies is just as hard as ever. However, some of the things you need to do before applying and working for those companies are.

1. Research the companies before applying.

2. Read up on different fetishes.

3. Make sure you meet your own needs before the company.

4. Built relationship with both dispatch and the boss ( Helps your career and your profit)

5. Try to built a great clientele.

6. Make sure you get paid on time.

7. Stay away from the companies with drama.

8. Make sure you also have listings at niteflirt and other indie platforms as well.

9. Ask if the owner is willing to do findom because many of them frown on this fetish.

10. Create your character within a week of working there.

11. Make sure that you are comfortable with no taboo phone calls.

12. Make sure that you pick companies that pay between 50 cent to 1.99 per min for newbies.

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13. Try not to get on the Phone sex black list.

iFriends VS IMLive

Imlive sounds terrible. ifriends does do charge backs and if the viewers don’t pay, you pay! Out of your 10% reserves.

With GPO you can only earn 35%. If the traffic were like it used to be then 35% wouldn’t be too bad.

You can earn 100% proceeds if you use your promo url. Even still, the show can be refunded and you will have to pay for someone to see you out of your reserves.

In the end it leaves you only trusting people you know but how do you know who they are if your new? How do you know if they are new? Well you can check badges and star ratings but that takes time and most times ruins the flow of conversation because the guys see you looking at it so they think they are boring you but really your trying to figure everything out and click everything fast enough to respond. 15% of the time it costs you money/viewer.

So those risk factors are still there. A lot of uploaded videos go missing as well. 

 and viewers can download your videos. As for the free option.

I have experienced cruel racism on ifriends too so they have that in commen with imlive if that was going on like you say there. Don’t put your defenses down yet. Hopefully you never have to experience it on the level I did.

There is a thread on WCG about ifriends. To prepare yourself check there. Lots of great tips. I don’t see anything being posted lately by WCG about site changes but maybe they will come up with something exciting and inspiring this year. Good Luck. go Get em tiger. 

Ifriends is better depending what you want you

Ifriends is better depending what you want you: you can block guest chat and do private only so it is TRUE private 

 Seems to be busiest est 10pm-3am weekends especially but it is def a slow site—since I almost never do free. 2 or 3 times in 3 years for me. But I’ve decided to try free once every free months you never know lol but I don’t cause I don’t need to, prefer to have it on mute and watch movies etc.

On Imlive guests, members with no credits and members can chat. You have to mute individually and you will have to do that ALOT (trolls, racists, and freeloaders). Imlive customers are cheap generally and don’t want to pay anything more than 1.98, but I stick to charging 3.80 

Occasionally some good shows but my goal on there is 100/month haha. On ifriends, I have no goal cause the site surprises me alot ! So far my best site this month.

You can do GPO or 50%. I go with 50% and I make sure if someone joins my show they have 3-5 circles. If they only have one circle. I might end the show as I prefer trusted members that spends and pays the site instead of a fly by night ‘new’ member who has no intention of paying.

Hope that helps and get it going